Talk:Octopus
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Habitat & Taxonomy[edit]
You might want to borrow some of the text in Taxonomy and put it in Habitat. Also Cirrina is an article, you might want to borrow some of it, too. Siuenti (씨유엔티)
Playing with the article's talk about pluralization[edit]
There's an HTML comment at the top of the article saying not to change "octopuses" to "octopi". Whoever wrote it must note that someone might make an edit that not only changes all non-mention uses of "octopuses" to "octopi", but also changes:
The alternative plural "octopi" is considered grammatically incorrect because it wrongly assumes that octopus is a Latin second declension "-us" noun...
...to...
The alternative plural "octopuses" is considered grammatically incorrect because it wrongly assumes that octopus is a native English word...
Do you understand this as a valid edit?? (The ellipsis at the end suggests that I don't know what would follow it should the edit be.) For anyone who sees this talk page post, please try to look for a way to put something in this article that cannot be altered to reflect the "octopi is correct" point of view. This section shows that the main sentence talking about the plural "octopi" can. Georgia guy (talk) 11:35, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- No, not a valid edit, because (1) the vast majority of nouns English borrows from other languages have regular English plurals; and (2) those who oppose the plural octopi do so because they are educated enough to know that it is not one of that class of Latin borrowings that changes singular -us to plural -i. Koro Neil (talk) 02:09, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Only way to prevent editing is RPP, and we'd need to demonstrate the need for that Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:30, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
Add a space before commas[edit]
At the start of the article, there isn’t a comma between octopuses and octopi Ediefalcopuppy (talk) 22:52, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, fixed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:23, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
Neutrality of pluralization section[edit]
Came here after being told all my life to say octopi. Just easiest to wiki first. What have I become? Anyway, didn’t expect the section to be at the top. As I read, it felt less like Wikipedia and more like someone’s personal grief about the pluralization rules. It’s rather aggressive for these articles. Could it be wordsmithed to something a bit more neutral in tone? I don’t have the ability with all those citations linked in but I’m sure someone does. Quickstrike85 (talk) 13:55, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Okay well you were told all your life incorrectly but now you know the linguistics here! And etymology/language sections are pretty much always at the top. Reywas92Talk 14:39, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
Danger to Humans[edit]
In the Danger to Humans section it says all octopus are venomous but only a specific kind is lethal to humans. Then, in the same para, it goes on with sentences about "bites" doing this and that, and bites occurring here and there. But it's not clear if the topic has changed to the one lethal type of octo, or if it's discussing bites, in general, at that point. Probably needs sentences to either start with, "[type] octopus bites..." do this and that. Or it needs to just be a para, specifically, and only about that type. 142.196.240.158 (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
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