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Regency of Algiers

In the last six weeks the article has been comprehensively updated to make it ready for GA. Its undergone a complete reference check and update, several sections rewritten, several sections added, images added, infobox updated and lede rewritten. We are now wondering if it ready for GA. We would like some general feedback on its state, any problems with the size of the article, the number and placement of images, problems with prose and other standout problem that come to mind. Its not had an external copyedit yet.

Thanks, scope_creep^Talk 17:42, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Comments from Z1720

Comments after a quick skim.

• There are some list items in the "Crafts" section that need citations.
• WP:ARTICLESIZE says at above 9,000 words, the article should be considered for a trim. This article is at 13,000. You might want to consider what can be removed or summarised.
• "Allioui, Youcef (2006)." There isn't an inline citation pointing to this source. It should either be used as a citation or taken out of the Bibliography.
• Why aren't the sources in the "Further reading" section used in the article? Consider using these or removing them from the article.

I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 00:27, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720: Thanks for posting that. Interesting reading. Do GA or FA articles not have further reading sections? I didn't know that. scope_creep^Talk 08:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@Scope creep: GA articles will commonly have Further reading sections which are not a big deal. However, reviewers at FAC will question why potential sources are listed in Further reading and not used in the article, as if a source is valuable enough to be in further reading it should usually be used as an inline citation instead. Z1720 (talk) 22:05, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720: I never knew that, but at the same time never taken anything to FAC so I guess its a learning experience. We will address it. scope_creep^Talk 03:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Matarisvan

Hi scope_creep, some comments:

• The Igawawen flag on the article and here are very different, consider using the former?
• Corsair, Aruj and Hayruddin are linked in lead, consider linking in body on first use?
• Translate Beylerbey using lit/trans templates?
• Link to Peñon (de Velez de la Gomera)?
• "vanquishing Andrea Doria's Genoese": consider rephrasing to "vanquishing the Genoese fleet of Andrea Doria..." in order to avoid SEAOFBLUE?
• Consider including the Algerian casulties in the Algiers expedition, so that readers can get an idea of the proportional cost of the battle?
• "twarted": "thwarted"?
• Link to Ottoman Fleet (Navy)?
• "went so far": "went as far"?
• "Lapento": typo I believe. Aldo consider removing the link, which has been used here for the second time.
• "praying": "preying"?
• "naighbors": "neighbors"?
• Link to Alawi?
• Link to Moulouya River?
• Link to spahi?
• Link to Constantine on first use?
• "In 1775 Irish-born": "the Irish-born"?
• "Spectacular": reword to something more neutral?
• "with and": remove the "and"?
• "he in fact": remove the "in fact"?
• Explain timars as land grants?
• Were there no administrative changes after Baba Abdi, or do we not have any surviving sources?

Will add more comments tomorrow. Matarisvan (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback, I have worked on those points. Nourerrahmane (talk) 19:58, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @Matarisvan: much appreciated. scope_creep^Talk 17:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nourerrahmane, some more comments starting from where I last stopped, the Administration section.

• Link to Commodus in note f.
• "charged of": "charged with"?
• "accomplished in": "accomplished through" or "achieved through"?
• "council the "powers" to govern": "council of the powers who governed"?
• Clarify what Khaznadar is in one or two words per NOFORCELINK?
• "muftis (Islamic jurists) as the...": "... to the ..."?
• "country's country's": Fix the repetition?
• "forefront of": just "forefront" would be better?
• Provide current day values for the tribute amounts using the {{inflation}} template?
• Were the tribute values yearly or paid over the years? Specify as such?
• In the Gaid quote, link to Miliana, Mila, M'Sila and Ain el Hammam; instead of in the manufacturing section?
• Link to Tenes and Dellys?
• Remove the double link to Bab el Oued?
• Link to Blida?
• "wordings descriptions": use "phrases" instead?
• Add the language parameter for Abitbol 2014, El Adnani 2007, de Grammont 1887, Golvin 1985, Chenntouf 1999, Boyer 1973, Boyer 1970b, Ben Hounet 2009, Jörg 2013, Kouzmine 2009, Leon 1843, Marcais 1955, Merouche 2002, Panzac 1995, Plantet 1889, Plantent 1894, Terki Hassaine 2004, Turbet-Delof 1973, Vatin 1982,
• Translate the titles for Boyer 1970b, Daumas and Yver 2008, de Grammont 1887, Golvin 1985, Jörg 2013, Khoja 2016, Leon 1843, Marcais 1955, Merouche 2007 and 2002, Panzac 2020, Planter 1894, Tassy 1725, Terki Hassaine 2004, Guemriche 2012, Meynier 2010?
• Remove the capitals from Braudel 1990?
• Remove EJ Brill as the author for Brill 1987? They are publishers and not authors.
• Remove the capitals from the journal name for Gorguos 1857?
• Why are Jillali 2007, Jörg 2013 and Trono et al 2023 repeated in the Further reading section when you have already used them in the biblio?
• Why are the remaining 5 sources in the Futher Reading section not used in the article? FAC reviewers will in all likelihood ask you to remove them if they are not being used.

Matarisvan (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2024 (UTC)